B"H
After the destruction of the Second Temple, 50 tons of gold disappeared from the Temple. Among the treasures was the golden Menorah. Obviously, the Romans took everything to Rome.
When one goes to Rome today you can still see the Arch of Titus which shows Roman soldiers coming back to their capital and carrying the Menorah.
At many shiurim (classes) I heart the teaching that years ago someone wrote the sentence "Am Israel Chai" (the Jews are alive) on the arch. Where are you Greeks, Romans, Persians and Babylonians ? You just disappeared but the Jews survived until today. If anyone wants to see an ancient people, look at the Jews.
In Israel and elsewhere, many historians are convinced that the Temple menorah and further Jewish treasures from the Temple are being hidden in the Vatican. There is no real proof, however in the past people claimed having seen the Menorah and the Zitz worn by the Cohen HaGadol.
Even if this matter is unclear, one thing is real. The Vatican is hiding ancient Jewish books such as the original writings of the Rambam, first editions of kabbalistic books etc. Two years ago, they lend three ancient books to the Israel - Museum in Jerusalem in order to exhibit them. Two manuscripts from the 15th century, one was the Rambam's Mishna Torah. The third manuscript was a Tehillim (Psalm) edition from the 13th century. It is ridiculous as the Jews should be the owners of their books and not a foreign religion.
It happens quite often to me that I study certain religious books and on the third page I see the note that the original is kept in the Vatican. I would like to see the Muslims what they would do if their literature was stolen by people from a different religion.
Every few years, the two Israeli chief rabbis go to see the pope and to negotiate with him the return of the menorah and further Temple treasures. The Vatican never denied nor admitted their possession of any Temple treasures. However, they are afraid that a return of the menorah to the Temple Mount could bring the Meschiach immediately. But not the Meschiach they would like to see.
Even former president Moshe Katzav asked the Vatican for a return but nothing happened. The chief rabbis and the president tried making a compromise with the Vatican. They offered to only exhibit the menorah at the Israel - Museum. The answer was no answer: No comment from the Vatican. One could write a great thriller about the issue. Maybe Dan Brown, the author of the Da Vinci Code.
Whatever the reaction of the Vatican may be, one thing is definitely for sure. The Meschiach is going to come, as the Vatican cannot lock up G-d's decisions and the Jewish Torah.
Tuesday, April 24, 2007
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Re: Sue Vatican for Temple Treasures
ReplyDeleteYes, of course, but like the International community, the Vatican is strong and I don't know if any lawyer here feels that he can take on a case like this and make a living- survive while doing so. If you find someone who is doing this, let me know, and I will interview the lawyer/s.
Best,
Tamar
The Tamar Yonah Show
B"H
ReplyDeleteThat's the whole problem. Besides some talks between President Peres and the Pope or the two Chief Rabbis (Amar / Metzger) and the Pope, nothing is happening.
Of course, the best would be to bring some real proof such as photos with a Menorah.
And sometimes it even seems that no one in Israel is really interested anyway. It probably on depends on how much we inform the wider public.
Shalom Miriam,
ReplyDeleteIt's the old "out of sight, out of mind." So let us all do what we can to help restore these things to the Israeli/Jewish consciousness and see what sparks fly, igniting a holy fire, b'ezrat Hashem.
Israeli negotiations with the Vatican over Temple treasures?
B"H
ReplyDeleteHi David,
At least it is something positive to write about the Vatican issue over and over again. I am sure that the pope doesn't like it too when the wider public gets to know some details.:-)
And, byt the way, the present pope has the best information about the Temple treasures stolen by the Vatican. Before he became pope it was him watching over those treasures and being the head of a department which you would call today and in the Middle Ages call "the Holy Inquisition".
B"H
ReplyDeleteHi David,
At least it is something positive to write about the Vatican issue over and over again. I am sure that the pope doesn't like it too when the wider public gets to know some details.:-)
And, byt the way, the present pope has the best information about the Temple treasures stolen by the Vatican. Before he became pope it was him watching over those treasures and being the head of a department which you would call today and in the Middle Ages call "the Holy Inquisition".
In the Caves of the Vatican, they have kept for centuries the huge solid gold Menorah and other artifacts which the romans stole from the Jewish Temple when they destroyed it in Jerusalem, in 70.
ReplyDeleteThe Popes won't admit that and let the Menorah be shown because it's a proof of the historical link of the Jews to Jerusalem, which link is being denied by hateful muslims, including the P.A., Ahmadinejad, etc...and the catholics will not do any thing to help Israel!
Why not?
Because basically, catholicism is just a very successful sect which tried to erase Judaism and its beautiful philosophy of truth, freedom and justice and build instead a world power system based on violence, lies and superstition.
The very survival of Judaism and Jews is considered a major threat by the Vatican because mankind could someday unmask the lies and abandon the superstitions in favor of jusice and truth!
And the state of Israel's very purpose is to guarantee the survival of Judaism = Vatican's nighmare!
ive been to the Vatican museum and i have seen many jewish related item with hebrew written on it, like the Jewish Menorah
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