Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Visiting the Neturei Karta

B"H

None of you should ever deny that the Neturei Karta has the most beautiful synagogue in Mea Shearim. Even more awesome than the local Mea Shearim Shtieblach.

During Sukkot, I finally succeeded in getting to the Neturei Karta Synagogue "Torah ve'Yirah" in the Mea Shearim market. There were still the Simchat Beit HaShoeva celebrations going on and Mea Shearim was so packed with people. Locals and plenty of visitors stepping on each others feet.

I mostly ended up with the Toldot Aharon but only succeeded once in seeing something. Once, I moved on to the "Mishkenot HaRoim", a tiny rather secret member of the anti - Zionist umbrella organization "Edah HaCharedit". The men's entrance is easy to find but one has to know the women's entrance. The women's section is long and narrow. However, the Mechitzah consists of windows and the women are able to watch everything going on downstairs in the men's section. And one thing for sure, the "Mishkenot Haroim" know how to celebrate.

A few days later, I went to the Neturei Karta. "Torah ve'Yirah" is considered to be more moderate and not as extreme as Rabbi Israel Hirsch and his clan nearby. Torah ve'Yirah is a relatively new synagogue with a dining room downstairs and a big roof. Well, the women don't climb onto the roof but the women's section is rather high. Take many stairs into consideration when you enter. The cleaning staff is doing a good job and the place is spotless.
The women's section (Ezrat Nashim) itself consists of at least two rooms. One room with chairs, benches and an Aron HaKodesh (Torah Shrine). The second section is full of metal benches where the women are able to look into the ground floor. A gorgeous synagogue I have to say with colourful pictures hanging on the walls and a great architecture. Much nicer than on any picture.

The men were dancing and the male participants were anything but only chassidic. Actually there were more Litvishe but also Toldot Aharon. The whole building was packed that night and everyone was just streaming in. Seminary girls, national religious maybe less than litvishe girls. Americans or Israelis, anybody was there. Someone completely opposing the Neturei Karta said to me that probably most people didn't know that they were at the Neturei Karta's. This could be but everyone seemed to enjoy himself and politics were put aside.

7 comments:

  1. Is it possible to become a Mishkenot Haroim hassid ? Do they accept newcomers ? I'd like to know.

    Kol tuv.

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  2. B"H

    As far as I know are the Mishkenot HaRoim rather an organization than a chassidic group; although they have a Rebbe - Rabbi Chaim Rabinovitch.

    However, I am sure that they accept newcomers !
    Just in case, I will ask someone who knows Rebbe Rabinovitch.

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  3. B"H

    As far as I was able to find out so far:

    The Mishkenot HaRoim don't seem to accept outsiders.
    I was also told by a Chassid that they are generally worse than the Neturei Karta.

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  4. Thanks for the quick responses. Anything else you can find out would be greatly appreciated.

    When you say 'worse than the Neturei Karta' what do you mean by that ? That they're more vehemently anti-zionist ?

    I'm also confused about whether they're a chassidut or not -- you say they're more like an organization, but they have a rebbe. Any further explanation would be greatly appreciated.

    Once again, thanks for responding so quickly.

    Kol Tuv.

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  5. B"H

    I am trying to get more details as fast as I can.

    The Mishkenot HaRoim are extremely anti - Zionist and another Chassid even called them "zealots".
    It is said that it was them and the Toldot Aharon being in charge for the Mechitzah in Mea Shearim Street during Sukkot.

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  6. Thanks again for everything. Waiting for more insights.

    Kol Tuv Lach.

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  7. B"H

    I found out some more details given to me by someone haredi:


    As for the Mishkenos, it is a shul not a chassidus and not even a group. If you want to try you can go visit Chaim Rabinovitz AKA the Mishkenos HaRoim Rebbe and try to start to get close to him, ask him for advice, brachos etc. and see if he is welcomed. Maybe if you grease some palms and give money to them that will help.
    Would you be willing to throw stone at peoples, beat up people, burn down stores selling non kosher phones, MP4 players etc. go to demonstrations etc. ? Would you be willing not to take money from the State of Israel and not send your kids to any cheder that does take money from the govenrment ? Would you conform to their dress codes? Would your wife and kids?

    This is the answer a haredi guy gave me. As you can see, he doesn't really agree to the ideology but, nevertheless, he knows the Mishkenot HaRoim very well.

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