B"H
This morning, a colleague of mine walked in and announced that he shaved his beard due to the Israeli Independence Day. The colleague is national religious and I was just wondering if this is a kind of a custom ?
As we know, men don't shave during the "Counting of the Omer - Sefirat HaOmer" as a sign of mourning. I cannot imagine that it is allowed to shave due to the Israeli Independence Day.
This has nothing to do with anti - Zionism but isn't the fact that someone religious obviously shaved quite strange ?
I didn't get involved when he was telling some other colleagues about his act. However, they seem to be rather pleased.
Thursday, April 30, 2009
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The same reason you they say Hallel on that day. They are celebrating a good thing, dati leumi believe that the creation of the state is a start of geula so therefore its a happy day and the issurimg on omer don't apply
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ReplyDeleteThat explain something.
I just had some mixed feelings about it when he told the story.
If you hold that Yom Haatzmut is truly a yomtov, then all the prohibitions of sefira are suspended for the day.
ReplyDeleteIt sounds perfectly consistent to me...
i am sorry. its one thing to say a few pirki of thilim, quiet another to blantly go againt the shulchan oruch.
ReplyDeleteon the other hand, "The State" is more then any torah that mishe gave us, so i wonder perhaps he shaved on YH but also doesnt keep shabbat?
B"H
ReplyDeleteI think I need to ask the guy next week. However, I didn't know that a state holiday can suspend everything and have never heard that kind of opinion before. Lag Ba'Omer, okay, but Independence Day ?
@ Kalashnikover Rebbe
Are you still around ? Haven't seen you at the Machlises for a long time.
okay about men, but about chasidishe women who shave their head like satmar, toldos aharon, etc etc ? do they stop shaving until their mikveh ?
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ReplyDelete@ Rochel
I don't think that all of Satmar is shaving hair but the Toldot Aharon definitely are. It says so in their Takanot.
The same applies to their split - off, the Toldot Avraham Yitzchak, but there, not all women follow the rule that strict.
No, they don't stop with the Mikveh, as shaving is a custom they picked up from their mothers. I know a woman following the Minhag of the Chatam Sofer and she also shaves her hair.
She learned it from her mother and taught it to her daughters.
She told me that what was good in the past, shouldn't be changed now.
It is their Hungarian / Romanian custom and they shave until the end of their lives. I've seen countless women like that.